Are these CCM parts on my Sunshine?

I don't know much about Sunshine, but that looks like a very nice paint job from the picture you posted

do you have a picture from the front and rear? how wide is the fork?  maybe it had balloon fenders and 26" rims and tires

would look good with it IMO

what is the wheel size?

Thanks. I am having trouble uploading photos. Hopefully I can get it solved soon.

The front rim is stamped: "V160 Made in Canada 28 x 1 1/2 F13". The rear hub has no markings on it except "36-13". The hub brake arm has nothing stamped on it either.

The V160 front rim is definitely a CCM product. The V160 came out in the ealry 1960s, after Sunshine had stopped manufacturing bicycles, so it's definitely an aftermarket replacement. All I can about the rear rim is that I haven't seen any Sushine models with 28" wheels that didn't have painted rims. That doesn't mean that they didn't use 28" chrome rims, just that I have seen any. Given that wheels are a commonly replaced item, I'd have to say that the rear is suspect, unless another member has seen something similar that is known to be OEM.

As for the fenders, I' don't recall seeing anything other than a smooth, round profile.

There were definitely ties between Sunshine and CCM. Massey-Harris coveted the Canandian rights to Australian based Sunshine's harvester, so they created a new company, along with the Waterloo Mfg. Co.  Tommy Russell was president was president of both CCM and Massey-Harris up to his death at the end of 1940, so he probably had an arm's length say about what went on at Sunshine and I imagine this was probably also true of subsequent management. Consequently, it wouldn't surprise me to find out that some Sunshine parts had origins at the CCM factory. 

Thanks John for help with the photos. And thanks T-Mar. Do you recognise the hub brake? Is it CCM from a later era? It's lack of stampings makes me wonder if it was made in Asia. Knowing what it is will help me with either placing both wheels on a different bike or finding someone who needs them.

And how about the handlebar stem? I have more than one CCM with the exact same round washer on top.

I have photos of the fenders for my question above regarding different fender construction, but I will start a new thread for that question.

The slightly hour glass shaped shell is reminescent of some Perry and Bayliss-Wiley coaster brakes hubs. CCM used these on some of their budget brands, like Cyco. It could be OEM. The stem does look like CCM product.

Thanks! That's good to know. Which decade would it be for the hub brake?

I have seen that brake are stamped Favorit

 i would probably try to fit balloon fenders and 26" wheels on there, and use a proper seat and enjoy the bike

I had a '71 Eatons Glider with the same rear hub.  Mine was identical to a Perry B100 with no markings other than the spoke count/gauge numbers on it.  It could be a reverse engineered clone/ knockoff of the Perry.  I'm not sure of the last year for the 28" V160 wheels though.

Erik

Thanks everyone. Max, instead of adding 26" balloon tires/wheels to these 28" bikes, I am going to try to end up with a pair of his and hers 28" balloon tire S-W bikes. I tried adding a pair of 28x1.75 tires to my Ladies S-W that has the original wheels and fenders but it still didn't look right, so I'm going to try buying a pair of 28x2 (50-622) Schwalbe Century tires, which also come in white-walls (they call the colour "cream"). These tires are not cheap, but the only ones I could find that are 28" white-walls. I will try to add photos.

I stand corrected! This bike is not a 28" bike at all. It is in fact a 26" balloon tire bike. I noticed that the rear fender is squished towards the rim at the frame mount and pulled away from the rim at the fender stays, just like a 28" fender forced onto a 26" frame. Then I checked Sunnyboy's frame photos on my thread Sunshine Questions, and found it is in fact the 26" frame. It has the wrong fork on it too! See other thread for full message.

Does anyone need a pair of like new 28" V-160 chrome rims for their 1960s-70s coaster brake CCM? I have a pair with tires for trade or sale.

Hello Brian  how much to purchase ?

thanks Gt 

gtflyte@hotmail.ca

Hi GT. I'm willing to ship them if necessary and can pm you with a price with or without the tires, but before I do that is it possible to do a trade? Here is a list of what I'm looking for.

Pre 1920: fenders (rounded style) front and/or rear; handlebar and stem; metal pedals;

Pre 1950: seat; 24" chrome rims/ wheelset for balloon tires; New Departure model D coaster brake; Sunshine Waterloo 26" balloon wheelset; fenders for same; fork for 26" Sunshine with 6" head tube.

Hello Brian how much to purchase  tires included and I'll pick the rims up ?

gtflyte@hotmail.ca

Gt

I have seen original Sunshine bikes with the CCM style drop side fenders. They would be late production.

Sunshine did not make a bike before the war. I have a news paper artical from the KW Record with information coming from thier records, local books and the Waterloo County Historical Society  Dave Brown had a Schwinn DX frame from Sunshine that the engineering department had used to pattern from. They had milled V notches into a number of the weld joints. My brother-in-laws father helped engineer the tooling for the bikes and beat CCM to the market after the war. 1953 was the last year for the bikes. In 1954 Massey Ferguson took over the company and stopped bike production.

Walter

Thanks very much Walter for your sheet of notes. I am certain my mens/boys double tube in the above photos originally came with 26" wheels. Besides the rear fender that's squished at the fender bracket, the fork is not correct because the fork tube is not long enough to screw on the top nut of the headset. You can see that in the above photo of the handlebar stem. I would probably leave the bike as it is given the nice paint job, but for this problem with the fork tube.

I have a girls 26" balloon tire S-W that I was going to leave on Toronto Island, but I could part it out and use the wheels and fenders. Unfortunately, the head tube on that bike is 7" long while my mens bike is 6". Do you have a fork I could buy from you?  Finally, the what-used-to-be chrome rims on my girls S-W are completely rusted. In addtion to a fork, I could really use a 26" chrome wheelset in good condition if you have one to sell.

One more question, Walter, would my mens double tube have originally come with a chrome fork truss, or was that optional equipment? If you search Google images for S-W bikes many of them have the fork truss. Cheers, -Brian