UNKNOWN BIKE WITH CCM HERCULES SADDLE

Submitted by Wayne.Gillies on Wed, 04/18/2018 - 22:13

I am currently working on a TOC bike which I have had for many years..unfortunately there is no head badge, ergo, what is it?  It had a torn head tube, which I replaced.  Has CCM Hercules saddle, ND model A rear hub, Columbia pedals, wood handle bar, period fenders, rack..all of which appear to be original to the bike. see att pics, help appreciated.

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Submitted by Wayne.Gillies on Wed, 04/18/2018 - 22:17.

The fenders mount to the frame with clips, rather than small bolts and nuts.  Here is a better pic of the side view

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Submitted by Brian R. on Thu, 04/19/2018 - 05:08.

Hi Wayne. Did the original head tube have badge holes? Can we see close-up photos of the chainwheel and fork crown please?

Submitted by Wayne.Gillies on Thu, 04/19/2018 - 13:28.

Brian:

These photos taken before ir was cleaned up should answer yr ques.  The badge was mounted vertically at a spacing of about 3".  

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Submitted by Dave Brown on Thu, 04/19/2018 - 15:02.

Hi Wayne

 Pretty early frame I would say with the straight rear tubes it must have  awide rear drop out . Does the New Departure fit in it with out pulling the drop outs itogether. I would think this was a fixed hub at one time. Very tall frame also.  That 5 bolt sprocket has me stumped. There looks to be a hole in sprocket next to crank arm in picture could that be for a one piece crank with a pin on the crank  arm to hold sprocket. Wood bars don,t seem to show up 1900  on .  Is that a crack at the head tube? Other than that I have no idea what it is.

Submitted by Wayne.Gillies on Fri, 04/20/2018 - 11:56.

Hi Dave:  

I will take a closer look at the rear drop outs for fit when I look at it next time, although when I took it apart I didn't note the fit to be out of the ordinary.  That is a crack in the head tube, which I have replaced.

Submitted by Brian R. on Fri, 04/20/2018 - 22:06.

I don't know who built it either. It doesn't match any Canadian-made brands that I've seen. I'm willing to bet the clip on fenders were an aftermarket add-on, a 1900-mid teens product so owners of fenderless bikes from the 1890s could update their rides. The ccm saddle and Model A brake may have been added at the same time.

Are you a member of The CABE? I've had several mysteries solved after posting photos in one of their forums. Sorry I couldn't identify it for you.

Submitted by Wayne.Gillies on Sun, 04/22/2018 - 18:35.

Brian:  

I figured I would give this site a try first.  I will try the CABE