CCM Flyte rim questions

Submitted by ccmusclebikes on Sun, 03/06/2016 - 19:35

In preparing for the rebuilding my 1936 Flyte, I'm led to believe the correct rims are NOT the ones with the red stripes.

The 1936 catalog picture I have on file defines the correct rims as "Endrick, chromium plated, 28" x 1 3/8", Canadian size.".

My 1940 catalog defines the rims as "28" x 1 1/2" Canadian size, chromium plated, red centre stripe edged in blue."

My questions are:

Do the 1937 to 1939 catalogs define rims with the red centre stripe and edging color that matches the frame color?

Is is possible some 1936 Flytes came with the red stripe 28" x 1 1/2" rims and is there some alternate literature to suggest this?

 

6 Comments

Submitted by jdwillia on Sun, 03/06/2016 - 20:00.

Hello,

The 1936 Flyte only came with the 28 X 1 3/8 Canadian size Endrick rims. The 1937 to 1941 Flytes came with the Dunlop 28 X 1 3/4 W.O. Westwood rims with the red centre stripe and edged in white (or blue?). The Endrick rims are really just a 27 X 1 1/4 rim supplied with all black tires. The original rims (also used on the Road Racer) are not that hard to find, but finding them in good shape is difficult and rechroming is usually necessary (and expensive). One solution is to find some nice chrome plated 27 X 1 1/4 steel 10-speed rims.

John Williamson

Submitted by ccmusclebikes on Sun, 03/06/2016 - 21:29.

Thanks John. The restored '36 Flyte that was for sale here a while ago had me wondering.

I've specifically liked the color scheme of the 1936 and thought the red striped rims were a bit flashy. smiley

Is there a known modern paint code for the ivory color?

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Submitted by jdwillia on Mon, 03/07/2016 - 14:03.

Finding any matching paint codes for CCM colours would be very difficult. I have used "One Shot" black and Tremclad ivory white in the past. These are both Alkyd Enamels and give a finish much closer to the original than modern body shop base coat/clear coat systems. Most old type paints are long gone with the push for environmentally friendly water-based paint. Modern pigments also make it almost impossible to match older colours. The older colours seemed much more brilliant and alive. Alkyd enamels can still be purchased as Industrial finishes at some paint stores. Sign Painters Supply Stores usually have "One Shot" enamel, which I highly recommend. Lacquers have almost disappeared (except at Canadian Tire in spray cans for cars). Tremclad is available at stores like Home Depot and Rona, and may be the same as Rustoleum. I know that when that restored 1936 Flyte was offered for sale last year, some paint colours where specified. I suspect that they were just somebody's best guess.

John Williamson

Submitted by gtflyte on Mon, 03/07/2016 - 16:33.

The  1936 Flyte  Endrick  Rims has Dunlop Canadian Size 28" EA Made in England PAT 182604.These are hard to find as John suggests get some 27X1 1/4 rims or some older CCM Endrick Road Racer rims by Palmer.
 

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Submitted by gtflyte on Mon, 03/07/2016 - 17:16.

Also to mention to use a hercules scripted hub if your building a rear wheel up for a 36 flyte 
Thanks Greg

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Submitted by ccmusclebikes on Mon, 03/07/2016 - 19:15.

Thanks for the further hub details, "gtflyte". I may have one on an old wheel set I saved a while ago. I need to dig them out.

I work in a lab for a major industrial coating manufacturer. Color matching is what I do. I have access to numerous industrial paint sample fandecks and use a color comparing spectrophotometer on a daily basis.. Perhaps we can put a "code" to the proper paint.

I haven't taken the fork off the frame yet. I guess I'll find out if there was the usual overspray on the fork tube. I was able to make my own exact color match for a couple other bikes that way.

This is my first Flyte and I might as well try to do it as correct as possible.

Thanks again for all supplied info and for any future info.