restore father's 1930s tricycle

CCM introduced their Joycycle tricycles in 1922, while the last year for that badge style was circa 1942. However, CCM made a change to the Joycycle line in the mid-1930s, with the most prominent change being the addition of a slight rake /curve to the front fork. It's hard to tell in your photos but it appears to be the earlier, straight fork. 

It is also the one of the budget Joycycle line, with a frame manufactured from flat verus tubular steel. Based on a note in the 1926 catalogue, these were a later addition to line. So the earliest year would be sometime during 1923-1926. The curved fork was introduced sometime during 1934-1936.

Within this line there was a change introduced for 1928, with the rear wheels and tyres being increased from 1/2" width to 5/8" width. 

The earlier budget series comprised three models, the Joycycle 20 (12" & 8" wheels), the Joycycle 21 (16" &10" wheels) and the Joycycle 22 (20" &12") wheels. The respective models for the later series were 30, 31 & 32.

My CCM documentation from this era is far from complete. Hopefully other members can help narrow down the date ranges and aid with the parts/restoration. 

Thanks very much.

Really interesting/helpful.

Forks appear to be straight.

It's tough to tell the tire width because if the age. But they seem closer to 3/4 inch.

The rear wheels without rubber are 10 inches.

So...1928 - 1934 Joycycle 21 ?

Any thoughts regarding how to proceed with restoration?

Cheers, Ian

What sort of restoration did you have in mind? It does not look that bad in the pictures.

Ian,

Based on CCM catalogue information, CCM did not begin to use chromium plating on the tricycle handle bars until 1935 (nickel plating prior to 1935) and still utilized the straight fork. Curve fork introduced in 1936.

If your father's tricycle has original components: chrome handle bars (they appear to be chrome in the photo, hard to tell) and straight forks, that would narrow it down to approximately 1935.

Below is from 1935 CCM catalogue.

Thanks

My father was born in 1928. Pretty sure I've seen a picture of him with the bike when he was less than 5.

Handles may be nickel plated.

Currently the bike is missing one of the pedals as well as any handle bar grips.

Tires are in rough shape.

I had thought of trying to restore it to original. Is this NOT recommended ?

I see ther eis a place in Toronto that could do paint. Is this NOT recommended?

It would at least be nice to get a second pedal. And some grips. The current tires leave a bit of debris ehre and there.

I welcome any thoughts/suggestions.

Is it more valuable as is? The sentimental value is large. Is its dollar value significant?

Cheers, Ian

If you restore the tricycle, then all you have is a restored tricycle. You then have erased all trace of connection to your father's use of  this artifact and it becomes meaningless. Don't concern yourself with monetary value. Fill in the missing parts and preserve (do no harm) to the rest of the tricycle. Very few of us have anything tangible to connect to our family in this way!

Restoration is the worse thing you can do to that tricycle !!!

Absolutely do not touch it in anyway !!!  That would be a massive mistake !!!

Get a set of replacement grips and a set of pedals at the MOST !

I wouldn't even bother doing that.

If this was a tricycle you found that was LIKE the one he had, then it would be OK to paint it and

restore it to look brand new.

THIS IS HIS ACTUAL TRICYCLE !!!!!    DON'T TOUCH IT !!!!!     THIS IS PRICELESS !!!!!

You have a gem, be proud !

Agreed  do not restore.     If you measure the handle  bars acuratly   I may have a pair of  NOS  red grips.

If you take good, clear, close up photos of the pedal someone might have a good used one to fill that gap.

Good words Roadworthy  "Do no harm"   every one should abide by that,  not just doctors.

rk.miller@eastlink.ca

Ron

Mark,

Thank-you for posting the 1935 information. So, if the reason for the change in model numbers wasn't the fork, what was it? The 1" wheels and tyres? 

While I agree that the bright parts appear too bright for nickel plate, the subject Joycycle doesn't have the two-tone paint of the 1935 catalogue. I don't see paint on the head badge and the patina looks like it could be factory paint. If so, that would seem to imply pre-1935.

Any members out there with early 1930s catalogues? 

T-Mar,

This style of 'flat-iron' tricycle first shows up in the 1927 CCM catalogue finished in red enamel only.

The two tone (red and white enamel) first shows up in the 1933 catalogue.

Below is from the 1932 catalogue, the last year with just red enamel.

Hi all,

And thanks for your comments and information.

I was actually leaning in the direction of doing very little to restore the bike. But it would be great to have another pedal and some grips.

Will keep the seata nd paint as is.

Paint is red with yellow stripes. FYI.

If anyone can supply a peddal and/or grips please get in touch.

I'll attach more photos.

Cheers, Ian

Sorry,
To Ron Miller et al
Handle bars are 16 inches wide.
Straight part of the grip area is 3 inches
Handle bar diameter is 3/8th inch.

Also one more photo.
I was named after my father.
Who was named after his father. Who immigrated from Scotland - fought in WW1 and 2. Has a school named after him in Saskatchewan .
And was likely the one who filed my father's name on the bike.

Indeed the bike is quite the keepsake.

Cheers, Ian

Hello Ian,

I think that I have two pairs of those handlebar grips. They are NOS and red. I could take a picture of them later on today. Ron Miller was the first to offer grips. I think that we should see if Ron has them first. Mine are always available.

John Williamson

Sounds good. Thanks

What does NOS mean ? Not Original Supply ?

If you can postt a picture that would be good.

Will wait to hear from Ron as well.

I am in Ontario

Cheers, Ian

Hi Ian,

NOS means "New Old Stock". Here is a poicture of the grips that I have. It turns out that they are black and not red, but I think that they are the correct grips.

John

Thanks.

They look good/like the picture.

Are you in Ontario?

How much would you want for them?

Cheers, Ian

Mark,

My earlier statement about the flat steel Joycycles being available at least as early as 1926 was based on the 1926 Joycycle pages posted by John (our webmaster). See: http://www.vintageccm.com/content/1926-ccm-joycyles

Based on the 1932 specificationss, it looks like the model number changes may have been driven by the upgrade to 1" wheels and tyres, 

tires on my father's bike appear to be 1 inch

front wheel with tire is 20 inches

rear with tire is 12

So it seems to be model 32 if my understanding is correct

Hi Ian,

I live in Edmonton, I can mail the grips to you for a total of $20. However, I do not want to upset Ron Miller because he was the one who first mentioned the grips.

John

No worries. Thanks.

Price is fine.

Will give Ron a few dayss to let me know. Does that sound reasonable?

Cheers, Ian

T-Mar,

You are correct, I have the 1926 catalogue.

I was making reference to the 1927 catalogue because the design was revised with the head tube,fork and handle bar configuration with the 'flat-iron' tricycles that was carried on throughout the years.

Below you can see the 1926 in a bit more detail.

Mark

Ian,      Here is a pair of NOS  (new old stock) 3/8" ID grips.  Yours if they are what you want, free since I gather you are NOT RESTORING the btricycle.

Ron

I'd like to one day restore this joycycle, pretty sure it's the same. It's rough but frame is solid.

Wheels are extremely rusted, to the point of almost nothing. I think if I leave the frame and just find new wheels/rubber if they exists. Get it back on the road.

Hi Ron

Thanks so much for your offer.

I would like to take you up on it.

You are correct. I only plan to add grips, pedal if available and perhaps a bell if one shows up. Then my "restoration " is done.

How do we connect further?

Where are you located? 

I am in Ontario.

Please advise.

Thanks Ian

Hello Ian   Im in Nova Scotia,   Liverpool.    If you email me your Address I will put them in the mail.

rk.miller@eastlink.ca          Ron 

Thanks to Ron Miller for gemerously supplying NOS grips for my father's Joycycle 32.

Thanks also to John Williamson for his offer to supply grips.

Attached please see Joycycle with grips.

I am still hoping to locate a missing pedal.

See pics above.

Please let me know if you have any intel.

Cheers, Ian