Thomas Lewis Southam and Alexander Kay
Here is an Email from England Re. the photo of the Southam & Kay Bicycle Shop. Ron
Date: February 12, 2012 10:35:49 AM AST
To: "S. Ransom" <s.ransom@t-online.de>
Cc: Ron & Karen Miller <rk.miller@eastlink.ca>
Subject: Re: AW: Bicycle dealer "Southam & Kay"
Dear Stephen,
Attached are copies of the 1896 patent - it applies to a conventional fra
I think Ron Miller had contact with Southam's grandson - who apparently has further photos. I have copied this reply to him so you can make contact. My impression is that the Vintage CCM group are small and the conversations are not continuous - but like you I haven't signed up.
All best
Glen
On 2/12/2012 5:05 AM, S. Ransom wrote:
Dear Glen,
Thanks for your response. Just after I sent you the e-mail I discovered the
Vintage CCM website (typical illustration of Murphy's law). The photo I sent
you was previously posted on a completely different site without any
reference to the Vintage CCM. Also previous searches on the Internet did not
produce any information about Southam& Kay. I noticed that the Vintage CCM
website mentioned a grandson but I do not how to contact him directly - can
you help?. I do not particularly want to get involved in a chat session on
the website. I notice Ron Miller provided some information - is he the same
person who is a member of the V-CC? You may pass this e-mail to Ron.
I did a patent search through the European data bank and discovered that
Thomas Lewis Southam and Alexander Kay registered a patent in Canada in
1896, No. 54023 with the title "Bicycle Frame". This indicates that Southam
and Kay were working together well before 1905. I was not able to download
the patent (the Canadian patent office does not allow me to do this) and so
I am not sure whether it applies to the monocycle or the more conventional
bicycles shown in the photo. The style of monocycle indicated to me that it
was made in the 1890s. Southam& Kay might have applied for other patents.
Thomas Lewis Southam was born on 31 July 1873, Paddington, Middlesex
(London). He was baptised at Christ Church, St. Marylebone, Middlesex, on 24
August 1873. His father Thomas was an engineer, his mother was Emma. Thomas
Lewis Southam married Fannie Maria Bolton in Toronto before 1901. He
emigrated to Canada between 1881 and 1891. Thomas Lewis was recorded in the
Canadian census for 1901 and 1911 as living in East Toronto. His death was
registered in York, Toronto, in 1929. This information was obtained from
ancestry.com, a genealogocal website, but I am not able to download any of
the Canadian records since I do not pay a full membership fee. I have not
been able to trace any information related to Alexander Kay.
I am planning to be at the ICHC at Roeselare and give a paper. I look
forward to meeting you there.
Best wishes, Stephen
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Von: gnorclif@yorku.ca [mailto:gnorclif@yorku.ca]
Gesendet: Samstag, 11. Februar 2012 20:03
An: S. Ransom
Betreff: Re: Bicycle dealer "Southam& Kay"
Dear Stephen,
Thank you for your message. Have you seen the Vintage CCM web site, where
this photo has been posted? The information on that site is more than I know.
My book on Canadian cycling ended in 1900, and this firm, Southam and Kay,
was started around 1905. I gather Southam's grandson is on-line at that site
and might know more about that unicycle. Have you contacted him? If you pressed
me, I would guess that the monocycle in that photo was cobbled together as a
publicity stunt - it bears some resemblance to the machine in the Musee at
St Etienne in France and the 1869 Rousseau monocycle in Fermo Galbiati's book.
Will you be at this year's Cycle History conference (ICHC) at Roeselare,
Belgium
in May?
best wishes
Glen
Quoting "S. Ransom"<s.ransom@t-online.de>:
Dear Mr Norcliffe,
I have been recommended by Nick Claytion to write to you as an expert on
bicycle manufacturers / dealers in Canada.
I have been researching the subject of monocycles for a number of years
and
just recently discovered the attached photograph posted on the Internet
which shows a pedal driven monocycle. The shop windows are marked "Southam
&
Kay K Wheels" and "Renting& Repairing". I have done a little genealogical
research, which I am unable to confirm, that says Southam was a bicycle
maker who was born in London, England, but later emigrated to Canada. From
Internet I found the following quote: "Dave Southam whose grandfather made
&
raced bicycles& gas engines circa 1905 in Toronto. [The attached] is a
photo of the shop with a very unusual "bike"
I am very interested to learn more about this dealer and I should be most
grateful for any help you could offer.
Yours sincerely,
Stephen Ransom
Member V-CC
Niece follow-up piece. Thanks for posting Ron.