CCM Delivery

Yes: its in PEI;  the seat is a replacement, as are the fenders and chainguard which are 70s vintage

That's what I thought. Nice bike nonetheless.

I saw one of these chained to a fence in front of a second hand bike shop in Ottawa last summer. The guy said it wasn't for sale. Its just rusting away sitting there, I wouldn't even know what to offer him for it.  I can't believe no one has stole it. 

I have one of those. They were used in factories and as delivery bikes . Mine was used in the avalon milk plant.

I would like to learn more about these fairly rare bikes.

As for that bike chained to the fence, get out your bolt cutters, anyone who leaves an old CCM in the rain, shouldn't own it.

I have a new old stock frame for sale with a pair of original tires for same; $375.00 which is what I paid.  I not likely will get the time to build it but you never know.

Sorry, I forgot to log in.  I will take the frame and tires to the vintage bicycle show and swap meet in Brantford at the end of the month.  Anyone with an interest in antique bicycles will be there.  No matter how far you have to travel there is no substitute in Canada for this event.  The organizer is probably the leading enthusiast in Canada and has promoted this event over many years.  This rivals the Copake auction and swap meet in New York State and the huge show at Ann Arbour, Michigan, all in our own back yard with no borders to worry about.  Hope to see you there.  Doug.

Totally looking forward to this event. Will be my first time there.

John

I was looking on another site and this kind of bike was refered to as a CCM Massey.

Has anyone else heard of this kind of bike being called that?

If it`s a Massey badged bike, that would make sense. But that`s referring to the maker not the type....

With the built in receivers for the front carrier it is a Delivery bicycle no matter what the head badge says it is.  These had heaver axles, wheels, tires, etc., all stamped with the appropriate numbers for a delivery bike.  Check your catalogues and you will see the differences between these and the other bikes.  They are extremely rare, mostly used by newspaper boys and drug stores as well as a few corner variety stores, before they had variety stores.  They sometimes had triangular signs hanging between the frame rails for advertising but I've only seen two.  If anyone has a carrier for one of these I certainly would be interested in purchasing it.  The vintage bicycle show is coming up this weekend, the 26th, and if you haven't been this would be your chance to see more vintage bikes than you will likely see in your life.  I don't mean to exaggerate this show but you will not find another show like this outside of Copake in New York State or the other show in Ann Arbour, Michigan.  The snobbery of the high wheeler group is of no consequence here as most of the bicycles are of the 1900's to present.  Rain or shine it will be huge.  Doug.

Just came across this ad for one in Toronto, it's at http://ontario.kijiji.ca/c-buy-and-sell-sports-bikes-old-delivery-bike-W0QQAdIdZ286949590 

Ad was posted on May 31, search on ccm delivery if you don't want to use the link above.

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Thanks for your advice, guys.

I'm sure you could build that carrier out of 'off the shelf' parts.

take some pictures and measurements, then go to an old machine shop and look for the 'grumpy old guy'; you know, the guy that was working in metal when you were a kid.

he'll fix you up

I've been eying that myself Greg. I just dont have the money for it right now, but I realllly want it. :)

A bit more on re-building that carrier. You need A guy that can bend small  tube.

The pieces that connect the tubes exist in copper so they probably exist in iron.

A comment made by Lawrence, above, has caused me to react on the forum.

He said: "As for that bike chained to the fence, get out your bolt cutters, anyone who leaves an old CCM in the rain, shouldn't own it."

While the comment was, perhaps, made in jest, it is the sort of comment that can lead others to think that cyclists don't respect others - and thus that cyclists don't deserve respect.

Of course it's unfortunate to see a nice bicycle be left outside in a vulnerable place - apparently to go to ruin - but that doesn't give anyone the right to steal it from the owner or to counsel others to steal it from the rightful owner.

If cyclists give such counsel to each other, does that not justify others making up similar clever excuses to steal their bikes as well?

Does it not, also, add fuel to the fires of those car and truck drivers who "hate" cyclists and who threaten our safety on the streets - because cyclists, themselves, show that they are a selfish lot - who want things entirely their own selfish way?

Yes, it is a good old bike, but that's no excuse even to steal it or to urge others to help themselves.

If we don't show respect for others, we can't expect it to be shown to us.

... And it's not just the theft of our property that is at stake, for our safety depends on us earning the respect of others who already see us as an inconvenience on the streets - and who might think we are a disrespectful lot - and do us more serious harm.

Happy, and respectful, cycling to all.

Respect in my world must be earned.

I've rebuilt 4 wooden boats, two motorcycles, and 10 or so cars. My favorate car was my 72 1800 ES.Volvo

The ES was as beautiful as the XKE Jag of the same year, but unlike the E Type it was built to last 20 plus years.

That's the kind of thing I respect.

I like CCMs for the same reason, built to last, not to just look pretty.

Now this clown that has a very rare delivery bike out in the rain is disrespectful and if it was out in this part of the world I would go into his pawnshop and take enough money to buy it..

If he just wants to torture the thing then it would be bolt cutter time.

Some people don't like cyclests because they break the law by doing stupid stuff like riding on sidewalks when people are on them.

Ya know, I think ''respect cyclists '' is somebody out here giving me a bad time just for fun, that comment was way to suckey to be real...

Lawrence's response suggests that he did not make is "bolt cutter" remark in jest.

I did not join in "for fun".  I joined this forum to object ot the suggestion that Lawrence had made that it is right to steal a bicycle from its legal owner if one believes that the owner is not treating his bike in the way that Lawrence (or anyone else) might claim to be "the proper way".

If we were to follow the course that Lawrence suggests, that would encourage us to take actions that are most disrepectful of the rights of others - on the basis of nothing more than a destructive over-abundance of conceit.

It suggests that we have the right to put our own self-serving wishes above the actual rights those who don't do whatever we could argue that they "should do". 

When Lawrence says that he would offer to buy a bike from the owner if it was left out in the rain, that's one thing.

But when he argues that if the owner would refuse to sell that bicycle to him he has some moral right to steal it, that's quite another.

What he is effectively arguing is both that he has a special licence to do whatever he wants to do - no matter whose rights are harmed - and that those who are harmed have to suffer the consequences.

I don't intend to debate this further.

Theft of someone else's bicycle is theft.

Putting oneself above the law and above the rights of others is a prescription for destroying any society that is founded upon mutual repect.

... and the wrongness of theft and the destructiveness of putting some above others is not changed - or even mitigated in the very least -  if a person who counsels the theft can concoct a clever-sounding argument to justify theft - or to put themselves and other would-be thieves above the rights of others and above the law.

If we want respect from others, we have to show respect to others ... and for their rights.  That's just how it is and how it has to be in any society that expects to be civil and civilzed.

Respectful cycling to you all.

What you're saying is because the bike store owns the bike, it has the right to distroy it, and I don't heve the right to preserve it for posterity.

Leagally you're right; morally, you're not. Following your logic, I will give you an example. Let's say ther was a power outage in the Louvre. The staff started burning the DaVincis because they were painted on Poplar panels and would give of the most heat, after all the staff are citizens of France and own the paintings

So before they chuck the Mona Lisa on the pile this guy grabs it and heads out the door. His argument is they have the legal right to burn the painting but he has the moral right to rescue it because the staff of the Louvre are undoing the labor that DeVinci put into it and distroying an important work of art.

Doing what's right is more important that obeying the law; it's always been like that...

Okay guys its enough for the bad comments please .. we are here for fun and for sharing photos and something like that, ideas etc.. etc not for a battle right ?, thanks

Theft of someone else  is a theft that's all ..

Nobody's having a battle,just making a few points.

My point is if you have a rare piece of Canadian bicycle history you owe it to the people that designed and built it to preserve it or pass it on to someone who will.

Anything else is not the right thing to do; not the moral thing to do.