Submitted by Dave Brown on Mon, 09/10/2012 - 16:46.
This is the same bike I had, that is in the Archives section of this site. They where made from about 1909 till 1913. There is only five left that we know of . The CCM motorcycle I had is in the UK now.
Here are a few photos of my 1911 CCM Motosacoche to add. I call it 1911 only because I found, at the Hershey flea market, a 1911 Manual for it. It could be 1907(first year for Magneto ignition) up to 1913 or 14. I don't think any one knows much about these machines that is factual. The only factual piece I have found is the front cover of the first issue of "Canadian Motorcycle Journal and Bicycle Review" June 1912. There is no information inside the magazine about it.
If anyone does find any reference to this machine I would be very interested.
Ron Miller
June 1912
Left side. Engine shroud on. Muffler is not installed yet.
Right side. It is original not restored just carefully cleaned.
As a new comer to these machines could you please clarify what is incorrect about the video commentary provided by the Burnaby Village Museum Curator and post the corrections.
The one I posted was actually Ron Miller's which I think was also the one at the Science Museum in Ottawa. I'm sure the one listed for sale was the one that Dave Brown had. That would make 5.
Submitted by Dave Brown on Mon, 12/10/2012 - 16:50.
Hi Sandy Yes the one posted for sale in the UK was mine.
Ron miller has one which was in the Science Museum. There is one in a museum in St Marys Ontario The one in Burnaby ,Also one in the Trev Deeley Museum . That is all i know of. I count 5
Re CCM Motorcycles. There is also one in the St Mary's Museum (not sure of it's correct name) near London, Ont. No Idea what year it is. In fact they are all questionable as to their actual year of production. If anyone saes it is definitely 19XX it needs proof. You are correct about My machine, also No.4 and No. 6 are the same. Would like to know more about No. 8. Best Ron
''she doesn't know what she's talking about'' would be the fact that these things were really heavy with the engine and they would only be used with the motor on.
The delivery bike in the video is a BSA so if tou were restoring a ''wing your wheels'' BSA that would be where you would get the measurments if you wanted to fit a carrier
The idea that putting a motor on a bike to ''help with the hills'' is a myth.. A delivery bike is heavy enough without the engine to solw you down. Why do you think I hang around at the back of our rides?
The upside is, I can carry a lot of beer.
If you wanted to get around on one of those motor bikes without the engine you better be going downhill...
cool machine, too bad she doesn't know what she's talking about.
This is the same bike I had, that is in the Archives section of this site. They where made from about 1909 till 1913. There is only five left that we know of . The CCM motorcycle I had is in the UK now.
As mentioned. Check the Archives.
From Ron Miller:
Here are a few photos of my 1911 CCM Motosacoche to add. I call it 1911 only because I found, at the Hershey flea market, a 1911 Manual for it. It could be 1907(first year for Magneto ignition) up to 1913 or 14. I don't think any one knows much about these machines that is factual. The only factual piece I have found is the front cover of the first issue of "Canadian Motorcycle Journal and Bicycle Review" June 1912. There is no information inside the magazine about it.
I believe I saw this machine at the Science Museum in Ottawa. It's absolutely gorgeous!
Ron: Is this the manual you refer to?
John
Yes John that is the manual. Where is that one? Ron
It's mine.
John
Hello Old Bikes,
As a new comer to these machines could you please clarify what is incorrect about the video commentary provided by the Burnaby Village Museum Curator and post the corrections.
Thanks,
Sandy
Hello Dave,
Is your CCM Bike that went to England the 1909 that is currently for sale on the Vintage Motoring Website or is this an additional one?
http://www.vintagemotoring.co.uk/public/item.cfm?itemID=269
Can anyone confirm which are the 5 left in existence today, I count eight unless there's a duplication?
1. 1911 Burnaby VIllage Museum
2. 1908 (so claimed) Trev Deeley Museum, Vancouver
3. 19XX Canadian Science & Technology Museum, Ottawa?
4. Dave's 19XX sold to UK
5. John's 1911 pictured above
6. 1909 listed on VIntage Motoring website for sale in UK
7. 19xx (Ron's?) shown in Vintage CCM archives
8. 1913 (so claimed) in private collection - western Canada (Calgary maybe?)
Thanks,
Sandy
The one I posted was actually Ron Miller's which I think was also the one at the Science Museum in Ottawa. I'm sure the one listed for sale was the one that Dave Brown had. That would make 5.
Hi Sandy Yes the one posted for sale in the UK was mine.
Ron miller has one which was in the Science Museum. There is one in a museum in St Marys Ontario The one in Burnaby ,Also one in the Trev Deeley Museum . That is all i know of. I count 5
Received the following note from Ron Miller:
Re CCM Motorcycles. There is also one in the St Mary's Museum (not sure of
it's correct name) near London, Ont. No Idea what year it is. In fact they
are all questionable as to their actual year of production. If anyone saes
it is definitely 19XX it needs proof. You are correct about My machine,
also No.4 and No. 6 are the same. Would like to know more about No. 8.
Best Ron
''she doesn't know what she's talking about'' would be the fact that these things were really heavy with the engine and they would only be used with the motor on.
The delivery bike in the video is a BSA so if tou were restoring a ''wing your wheels'' BSA that would be where you would get the measurments if you wanted to fit a carrier
The idea that putting a motor on a bike to ''help with the hills'' is a myth.. A delivery bike is heavy enough without the engine to solw you down. Why do you think I hang around at the back of our rides?
The upside is, I can carry a lot of beer.
If you wanted to get around on one of those motor bikes without the engine you better be going downhill...