Submitted by DarrenRead on Mon, 09/19/2011 - 11:17.
Thanks. If any one knows of where I can get some parts for this bike in Alberta, or elsewhere, please let me know. I would be looking for pretty much everything. It does not have to be the exact year either. I will probably use the first one as a driver.
Submitted by Wayne.Gillies on Mon, 09/19/2011 - 13:45.
1. The headbadges are post war, the badge with the punched out letters probably up to 1950, the other was in use to the early 70s (72?) when stick on decals became the norm. (During WW2, water slide decals were used on War Grade bikes).
2. The dropouts are parallel to the chainstays which is indicative of frames later than 1933 when the dropouts would have been angled to the ground.
3. The early 30s bikes were not yet equipped with the CCM crankwheel, they used the CCM 4926/4645 or the Hercules 4480 sprockets
4. I have 2 bikes with the #V#### sequence, both which I have considered a bit of an anomaly, because they don't follow the chart that we all use as a reference in dating our bikes, this chart goes to #T#### ending in 1948 and changing to #####A for 1949. I consider that a tremendous amount of research went into compiling this invaluable research resource and some things slip through the cracks (I believe we all owe a debt of gratitude to the CCMguy in Monteal, GerryLauzon?? and others who have helped to "tune up" this chart), so I feel safe in assuming that the #V#### bikes were made between 1948 and 1950.
5. The serial # on the second frame is on a rear dropout which is indicative of a late 60s/70s era frame.
I had a 41 camel back and it had a diamond shaped badge, but the badge was smaller, looked cheaper and was not screwed on but had some small rivets holding it on.
Submitted by Wayne.Gillies on Wed, 09/21/2011 - 17:52.
As I understand, they were basic roadster style bikes that complied with gov't specs, many were shipped overseas for the troops and some were sold at home; they had blacked out hubs, cranksets, handlebars/quills and have a waterslide decal rather than a metal headbadge. The two I have were/are black; I have a 1943 ladies completely original (headbadge faded & basket scrapes) http://s917.photobucket.com/albums/ad20/dobie45/1943%20CCM%20LADIES%20WAR%20GRADE/ and a 1943 mens which I will restore. I have had the decals duplicated in Mylar in sufficient #s to offer them for sale in the near future (approx $10 ea) http://s917.photobucket.com/albums/ad20/dobie45/MYLAR%20CCM%20HEAD%20BADGES/
It looks like the first one may be a 1933 which is the only year I believe CCM used a "V" in their serial number if I'm not mistaken. Anyone???
Thanks. If any one knows of where I can get some parts for this bike in Alberta, or elsewhere, please let me know. I would be looking for pretty much everything. It does not have to be the exact year either. I will probably use the first one as a driver.
V is not on some of the CCM serial number lists.
I be thinking you have 2 camel back frames the first one I would think if it was 33 it would have a dimond shaped, two part badge like my 37
1. The headbadges are post war, the badge with the punched out letters probably up to 1950, the other was in use to the early 70s (72?) when stick on decals became the norm. (During WW2, water slide decals were used on War Grade bikes).
2. The dropouts are parallel to the chainstays which is indicative of frames later than 1933 when the dropouts would have been angled to the ground.
3. The early 30s bikes were not yet equipped with the CCM crankwheel, they used the CCM 4926/4645 or the Hercules 4480 sprockets
4. I have 2 bikes with the #V#### sequence, both which I have considered a bit of an anomaly, because they don't follow the chart that we all use as a reference in dating our bikes, this chart goes to #T#### ending in 1948 and changing to #####A for 1949. I consider that a tremendous amount of research went into compiling this invaluable research resource and some things slip through the cracks (I believe we all owe a debt of gratitude to the CCMguy in Monteal, GerryLauzon?? and others who have helped to "tune up" this chart), so I feel safe in assuming that the #V#### bikes were made between 1948 and 1950.
5. The serial # on the second frame is on a rear dropout which is indicative of a late 60s/70s era frame.
Hope this helps
Thanks for all the info Wayne.
What's a ''war grade bike''
I had a 41 camel back and it had a diamond shaped badge, but the badge was smaller, looked cheaper and was not screwed on but had some small rivets holding it on.
As I understand, they were basic roadster style bikes that complied with gov't specs, many were shipped overseas for the troops and some were sold at home; they had blacked out hubs, cranksets, handlebars/quills and have a waterslide decal rather than a metal headbadge. The two I have were/are black; I have a 1943 ladies completely original (headbadge faded & basket scrapes) http://s917.photobucket.com/albums/ad20/dobie45/1943%20CCM%20LADIES%20WAR%20GRADE/ and a 1943 mens which I will restore. I have had the decals duplicated in Mylar in sufficient #s to offer them for sale in the near future (approx $10 ea) http://s917.photobucket.com/albums/ad20/dobie45/MYLAR%20CCM%20HEAD%20BADGES/